In our latest episode of Off the Page, we talked with author Julie Marie Wade, whose essay “Meditation 32” was published in issue 15.2 of Fourth Genre. Among other things, Julie is the author of Wishbone: A Memoir in Fractures, winner of the Lambda Literary Award in Lesbian Memoir, and is a member of the graduate faculty in creative writing at Florida International University in Miami.

We hope you enjoy listening to our conversation about teaching nonfiction and writing lyric essays, and our literary fan-girling as much as we did. Thanks for listening!